Taking a step back away from the discussion of communism and capitalism, I couldn’t help but question why Engel’s argument dichotomizes the two concepts as if no other forms of social order can exist in societies. Granted it would take extensive thinking, planning, trial and error, I suggest that it is not an either or selection. When has anything that involves a large group of people ever been simply black and white? Many of the points that have already been discussed in the blog thus far point to the shortcomings of Engel’s argument. If communism will use all instruments of production and distribute all products “according to the common agreement”, I also question how such a “common agreement” will be reached? Even if every person is allowed an equal voice, only one voice can be acted upon for the public and that can only go over well if everyone agrees to whatever it is that voice calls for. In communism the social order will have to be hierarchical in some nature because their will also be those whose voices and choices are acted upon and those who receive less attention. Again we return to the same question that we have discussed plenty of times, “Who has the microphone?” and what would those without the microphone say if they did have it?
Switching my focus a little, I also want to briefly discuss a concept that Engels merely grazed over in his discussion of the distribution of products in a communist society. He states, “Society will take all forces of production and means of commerce, as well as the exchange and distribution of products, out of the hands of private capitalists and will manage them in accordance with a plan based on the availability of resources and the needs of the whole society.” He further affirms, “This development of industry will make available to society a sufficient mass of production to satisfy the needs of everyone” Hm…are you sure about this? Sure in doing so society would fill all the needs of the world, but does that really remove one of the core elements of the human condition which is to want and desire things? Also, I’d like to clarify that when I say “things” I am not simply talking about material/tangible products, but also those intangibles such as fame, admiration, popularity, recognition….power. Even in providing everyone the things they NEED, it does not cleanse the world of greed, violence, and other debilitating mannerisms that foster a capitalist society and thrive in the grouping of human beings. All of which many times are the byproducts of human desires for something we believe we do not possess regardless of if it is private property, consumer products, or what ever the case may be. Engels discussion deals with morals and values just as much as it does with economics. If in a communist society everyone is provided with life’s necessities, what rubric is used to determine what is necessary and what is not? After years of building a consumer driven society (specifically in the US) haven’t the lines of needs and wants been blurred? I definitely need that new Gucci Mane CD and I cannot live without that new Lamborgini Coupe, or can I? I know plenty of people in the world have this mentality and a change of economic distribution will not cure it…it is an ideological disease.
Switching my focus a little, I also want to briefly discuss a concept that Engels merely grazed over in his discussion of the distribution of products in a communist society. He states, “Society will take all forces of production and means of commerce, as well as the exchange and distribution of products, out of the hands of private capitalists and will manage them in accordance with a plan based on the availability of resources and the needs of the whole society.” He further affirms, “This development of industry will make available to society a sufficient mass of production to satisfy the needs of everyone” Hm…are you sure about this? Sure in doing so society would fill all the needs of the world, but does that really remove one of the core elements of the human condition which is to want and desire things? Also, I’d like to clarify that when I say “things” I am not simply talking about material/tangible products, but also those intangibles such as fame, admiration, popularity, recognition….power. Even in providing everyone the things they NEED, it does not cleanse the world of greed, violence, and other debilitating mannerisms that foster a capitalist society and thrive in the grouping of human beings. All of which many times are the byproducts of human desires for something we believe we do not possess regardless of if it is private property, consumer products, or what ever the case may be. Engels discussion deals with morals and values just as much as it does with economics. If in a communist society everyone is provided with life’s necessities, what rubric is used to determine what is necessary and what is not? After years of building a consumer driven society (specifically in the US) haven’t the lines of needs and wants been blurred? I definitely need that new Gucci Mane CD and I cannot live without that new Lamborgini Coupe, or can I? I know plenty of people in the world have this mentality and a change of economic distribution will not cure it…it is an ideological disease.
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